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Post by andycole on Jan 31, 2012 16:13:00 GMT 2
These look pretty cool. A little pricey for a game you can't play, though. Solar keychainsAndy
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Post by andycole on Jan 31, 2012 15:53:34 GMT 2
Wow on that PS fire attack! That is a corker!
Is it just me, or has ebay made it a lot harder to see the winners now? The last time I looked, they changed the real names to made up ones, and now I can't even see a link to the buyer at all. Shows you how long it is since I used ebay!
The seller also had a PS DKJR that sold for a similar price.
Andy.
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Post by andycole on Jan 31, 2012 15:39:49 GMT 2
That's one long sentence! You should try full stops I got only a fraction of my collection from ebay. The majority was from car boot sales or by trades with other collectors. My best ever find was one day at a car boot sale, I purchased 9 loose games for 1 pound each, all from the same seller. He also gave me a few spare battery covers, and said that he had 'cleared out his shed'. Some of the games were dirty with mud, so I can believe his story. He also said that he had a load more and I gave him my number to contact me when he found them, but he never did. Still the best day ever! Apart from that, I think I recall days when I would come home from car boot sales with 4 or 5 games per visit. Aah, great times! Andy
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Post by andycole on Jan 12, 2012 15:27:13 GMT 2
This is an interesting thread, and while we may never find out the answer to this mystery, I still enjoy the discussions!
I think the point about the games being missing from the ad even thought they were released doesn't prove anything other than they were'nt released in the US or Canada AT THAT TIME. We still don't know if they were added later. Aris, the fact that you didn't ever see a chef or turtle bridge is perhaps more useful, but it depends on how your situation at the time allowed you to see everything. I don't know when you went to school or at what age you lost interest in the games (if at all), so it is possible that they existed but you just didn't see them. Maybe they were released later and by that time you had left school and more important things took up your time and attention.
We also know that there are several more PS games that were not featured in the ad, such as rainshower, lifeboat, pinball, etc, but we have to assume that the ad was aired before these games were on the market at all. We don't know the reason why the 1981/82 games are missing, but we also don't know for sure that they didn't get released later.
The other evidence we have is the NOA brochures that we regularly find with the PS games. I've never seen one in the flesh but I understand that they only list the games we know to exist, and that chef and turtle bridge are missing. Do we know the date of these brochures? Maybe they had the initial set printed and never revised them? I'm guessing that they don't include DK3, otherwise we would have known of it's existence long before, so that also proves that the brochures are not the 'bible according to PS'.
So, I don't think I've added any useful information, but perhaps we need to look at the available brochures/flyers now, get dates, and pool everything we know. That youtube video also linked to several others, I'll see if there are any more G&W ads that might help.
p.s. Egg: I wouldn't rule it out but I think the chances of it existing are far slimmer than that of Chef and Turtle Bridge.
edit: I just looked at the other thread, and it would appear that the first leaflet was printed to tie in with the TV ad and the toy fair, and that took place in February, as it still does. So those ads must have been early 83. What's interesting here is that Mario Bros and DK2 didn't get released until March, yet they are featured in the ad and the leaflet, which I am now sure was before Toy Fair!
Andy
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Post by andycole on Nov 28, 2011 15:34:35 GMT 2
I've had a look and I can't see where this is amended. Then again, I am just a moderator, not the administrator.
You should have an option somewhere in the admin area.
Andy
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Post by andycole on Nov 22, 2011 15:52:42 GMT 2
to post a picture, you need to host the photo on your own website, or on a photo hosting website. See here for a list of hosting sites. You then use the (img) tag to place an image in your post, or click the image button. If using the quick reply, you must use the tag as you have no buttons! Andy
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Post by andycole on Nov 11, 2011 15:52:07 GMT 2
Well, well, well. I'd better behave myself! Seriously, though, thanks for everything, Mike. I hope things get better soon. Andy
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Post by andycole on Nov 4, 2011 15:44:54 GMT 2
Why am I not surprised.... You may want to re-read my comments again Andy, I already stated that I think a "model-less" Ball game is very rare, and I base that not on the assumed fact that only 10000 were produced, but, on my supposed skewed logic, that we have only ever seen about 6 of these so far in the world today. LOL Yes, you're right, I re-read your original comment and our views agree Think of it this way Andy. Let's say they made 3 million Donkey Kong games, and they made 500,000 Oil Panic games. Now, based on production numbers, OP is quite a bit rarer than DK. However, fast forward to 30 years after the production of these games, and no one has seen a DK game on any auction site for more than 10 years now, meanwhile, OP games are all over ebay, Tradera, Marktplaats, etc... and have been for the past decade. Now you've confused me. Which DK are you referring to? Release numbers of PS games are unknown. So, whether they made, 1000, 10000 or even 100000 of each, the fact still remains, (even at an assumption of equal production numbers for PS games within a Series), the rarest games are the ones that we've seen the least in the world today, and that's why NOA DK3 is the rarest because we've only ever seen one of these games. I realise it's all unknown. I was just curious as to what others thought. I'm not expecting to solve any questions, just have a discussion. Here's what I think: We still don't know 100% exactly where the PS games were sold. Let's just say, for arguments sake, that it was Canada only. Think how many shops selling toys there were in Canada in the 1980's. Each of those would have to order a minimum of 10 (a shipper) of each title they wanted. That alone has got to put production numbers to at least 1000 for each title. And I don't think they would print less than 1000 of each box design. And I would think that the 'survival rate' would be roughly the same for each game. So, thinking about the numbers we have seen, leads me to deduce that the survival rate is 0.1% (one game survives for every 1000 made), and that the rarest game, DK3, had the minimum production number of approximately 1000, and the most common PS games, such as DK2, in the tens of thousands. What do you reckon? All based on guesses of course, but I like to do 'What ifs' Andy edit: The above is all referring to PS and their boxes. I would think that the survival rate for games is at least 10 times that of boxes, for obvious reasons.
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Post by andycole on Nov 3, 2011 15:55:16 GMT 2
I don't really agree with your logic. You're saying that you base rarity on how many we see available in the world today. Well, how many model-less Balls have you seen? Less than 10 I'm guessing.
While we're pondering release numbers vs numbers today, how many of each of the 'super-rare' PS do you think got made? I would expect it to be an absolute minimum of 1000, but more like 10,000 of each. I expect that less than 1/1000th of them still survive, whatever the number was.
And while we're at it, what proportion of ALL games do you think still survive? I reckon way less than 10%, probably 1%.
Andy
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Post by andycole on Oct 31, 2011 15:13:25 GMT 2
10,000 is not rare? That's the same amount of Super Mario Special Editions. So it is rare!
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Post by andycole on Oct 26, 2011 14:11:28 GMT 2
You-re not talking about the model number, are you? I know that they have the model printed on them, and that there are some anomalies, such as Egg (EG-26) having MC-25 on it.
Andy
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Post by andycole on Oct 20, 2011 14:50:57 GMT 2
I think it has been discussed before, so it's not a taboo subject. I am a bargain hunter, and I also started collecting before most people on this forum, and got many of my games very cheaply at car boot sales, before ebay was a household name. I spent about 3000 sterling on a collection of all 60 games, about 45 of which were boxed. I know of people who have spent 10 times as much, though, but their collections were near mint throughout.
Andy.
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Post by andycole on Oct 20, 2011 14:47:26 GMT 2
Exactly what I said, then. I still say greenhouse will have the most. Andy
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Post by andycole on Oct 18, 2011 17:57:40 GMT 2
Now you've confused me. I've re-read your original post and I thought I understood it perfectly, but perhaps not.
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Post by andycole on Oct 18, 2011 17:54:43 GMT 2
It's good advice that Mike has given. The more you spend, the more likely it will be that you will re-sell your collection at a later date.
But even if you get the crappiest games there are, by the time you get to 60, that's still a fair chunk of money sitting there in your cupboard/display cabinet, and the temptation to sell usually gets you in the end.
It sounds all doom and gloom, but the actual collecting process can be a lot of fun as long as you don't get silly with the prices, and take your time. That's the best advice I can give. Take your time. The building of the collection is the best part, and once you have reached your goal, it's a bit of an anti-climax, and you'll wonder what next.
Keep an eye out for bargains and only buy the games that are underpriced and you'll benefit in 2 ways: 1. You'll save money and 2. it will take longer and be more satisfying.
Andy
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