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Post by sAner on Feb 17, 2006 8:56:12 GMT 2
... but, but ... this was the most lively and entertaining discussion since the fake compo! ;D
sAner
@mike: You know I hate resellers (I wrote that and they're the reason why I quit collecting in the first place). I am 100% with you on that point. We should try to stop resellers where we can. It's just that there is no law against reselling. On top of that; I don't believe Aris is a reseller. Are you Aris??!
Last point I want to make: I think everything written on this forum should stay on this forum. That rule was obviously not obeyed in this case and from experience we know what can happen ... things can get out of hand.
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Post by rensmits on Feb 17, 2006 11:23:56 GMT 2
Now that was a great discussion.
I think Aris made a very smart deal and ,like others, I think that Rob should have been more carefull and should have stick to the deal. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loose. Some extra researche with google could save a lot of money for people who don't know what they are selling.
I don't think it will happen again to Rob.
Now, I hope that everything will work out with ebay.
I would say, Aris : Let it rest and take your claim back. Like I said before:"You win some, you loose some".
René
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Post by andycole on Feb 17, 2006 11:54:30 GMT 2
Hmm, I think everyone's starting to calm down now, the posts are not so aggressive Couple of comments from me, hopefully the last. This argument about BIN prices is never going to be agreed, but just imagine for a minute, the chaos if everyone decided that contacting a seller to add a BIN was OK, and when a rare item came up, several people offered the seller different amounts. Of course, he'd go for the highest offer, if at all, but how could he control who bids? He couldn't, other than a private auction. So I guess we'll continue to see auctions get pulled off ebay or BIN's quickly added and taken before anyone else gets the chance. It's unfair to those who want to stick to the rules, so more and more people are going to go 'to the dark side' About the duplicate items issue - I think I started it by questioning why Mike was bidding on the DKC. The reason I asked was mainly because it was Mike that started all the fuss over that item when he has one already and missing that item would have been no great loss to him (admit it, Mike), and he urged everyone to react, which many did, but there was little or no fuss over the pulling of the punch-out and I believe every forum member would have wanted to see that item go to the end, even just out of curiosity. The blackjack, same deal, although I expect less people were bothered by this. Lastly, what a cheap egg! I saw it listed but didn't bother watching it. I just assumed it would go to the usual price. That was darn cheap, even with the bits missing. Andy
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Post by jonwiththewind on Feb 17, 2006 12:17:20 GMT 2
How about this:
1) We have a "competition" (yeah, I know - nice) to decide on a text-document that can be sent immediately to "unaware" sellers of rare items, along the lines that "you are likely to get an offer for this game on condition that you put a BIN on it, but BE WARNED - your item is likely to be worth XX amount, and you should give it 24 hours before agreeing, to see how the auction takes off"
and then (this is the GENIUS bit) :rolleyecrazy: :eek2:
2) We form an army of "BIN"-men (wow, I'm really on a roll with this one) to watch ebay (all sites - US, UK, OZ, Germany, France etc. etc.) in a 4-hourly rota - 24/7, whose sole job is to monitor ebay, and issue these notices.
That should work, ay? :juggler: Volunteers? ;D
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Post by sAner on Feb 17, 2006 13:48:07 GMT 2
Now that is a brilliant idea! ;D
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Post by matsor27 on Feb 17, 2006 13:52:51 GMT 2
"BIN"-team, a group of G&W veterans, who in the battle against e-bay crime formed an Army against illegal BIN's.
If you have a problem, that no one else can solve, hire the "BIN"-team. Ta tataaa! tata taaaaa. - tatatatataaaa tatatatataaaa.
:mexican:
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Post by devster on Feb 17, 2006 14:02:35 GMT 2
How about this: 1) We have a "competition" (yeah, I know - nice) to decide on a text-document that can be sent immediately to "unaware" sellers of rare items, along the lines that "you are likely to get an offer for this game on condition that you put a BIN on it, but BE WARNED - your item is likely to be worth XX amount, and you should give it 24 hours before agreeing, to see how the auction takes off" and then (this is the GENIUS bit) 2) We form an army of "BIN"-men (wow, I'm really on a roll with this one) to watch ebay (all sites - US, UK, OZ, Germany, France etc. etc.) in a 4-hourly rota - 24/7, whose sole job is to monitor ebay, and issue these notices. That should work, ay? Volunteers? ;D ;D Most amusing Jonners, most amusing. Imagine if someone fell asleep on their shift and a punch out came up!!!! I'm loving the A Team bit Mattijs!! And I'll try to :lipsrsealed: Aris, but I can't guarantee that one!
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Post by wwfcgoober on Feb 17, 2006 14:38:47 GMT 2
I was just reading Andy's post about "going over to the dark side" when I heard my wife watching Star Wars at the other end of the house.
Spooky!
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Post by andycole on Feb 17, 2006 15:06:19 GMT 2
I think such a 'team' or 'document' can only cause more arguments.
Andy.
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Post by jonwiththewind on Feb 17, 2006 15:13:18 GMT 2
But we LIKE arguments, Andy :evil: And it's "Bin- men" because it's an (amusing?) play-on-words. In the UK Binmen are the rubbish/trash removers.. eg: news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=896&id=2477332005So the word has a double meaning, or a TRIPLE meaning if you (controversially) think that you are cleaning Ebay up!! (ie Ridding the streets of the cheeky re-sellers etc...) :biggrin:
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Post by matsor27 on Feb 17, 2006 17:01:25 GMT 2
But we LIKE arguments, Andy And it's "Bin- men" because it's an (amusing?) play-on-words. In the UK Binmen are the rubbish/trash removers.. eg: news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=896&id=2477332005So the word has a double meaning, or a TRIPLE meaning if you (controversially) think that you are cleaning Ebay up!! (ie Ridding the streets of the cheeky re-sellers etc...) Aahhh, clever
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Feb 17, 2006 17:26:38 GMT 2
I think I have to post something serious to keep the balance! :biggrin:
Imho if you just send the seller an email advising him that you're interested in his item and urging him not to end the auction early, it would be sufficient in most cases. We live in different continents so if we all do this, then I don't think we would miss any auctions. Bidding in the auction a small amount of money will also help as the seller will think it twice before cancelling all bids and end the auction.
Michael
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Post by andycole on Feb 17, 2006 18:41:23 GMT 2
Yeah, mentioning the true value will undoubtedly cause shill bidding in some cases, which I hate even more than pulled auctions!
Andy
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Post by raffles on Feb 18, 2006 14:10:48 GMT 2
Pretty cheap, even considering it's a common game: link
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Post by sAner on Feb 18, 2006 14:13:17 GMT 2
Link does not work ... :no:
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