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Post by rensmits on Feb 3, 2010 10:54:01 GMT 2
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Post by pheldge on Mar 18, 2010 15:49:27 GMT 2
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Mar 19, 2010 2:11:59 GMT 2
The foam is fake for sure, I don't know about the other stuff. If I'm not mistaken the seller doesn't say anything about it in the auction..
Michael
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Post by pheldge on Mar 20, 2010 12:51:24 GMT 2
You're right, he mentions nothing about repro. And indeed, this is the foam that caught my eye. I browsed his feedback to find any relation with for example hobbymodel, but seen nothing suspicious.
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Post by Gawaleus on Mar 20, 2010 18:45:08 GMT 2
As Michael said already, the foam is fake for sure. In this case the other items (except the game) might be fakes as well.
My opinion: Avoid this seller.
Patrick
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Post by totaljapon on Mar 30, 2010 16:19:14 GMT 2
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Apr 1, 2010 0:50:05 GMT 2
Yes, we mentioned that in another thread.. You should report this to Ebay and contact the seller!!
Michael
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Apr 12, 2010 0:33:05 GMT 2
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Apr 21, 2010 10:39:33 GMT 2
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Post by mazlee on Apr 21, 2010 11:00:18 GMT 2
These are not FAKES!
These are repros. It's shown in the description. I think with some warning mark on the box it's ok.
Many people ( like me ) doesn't have much money collecting original boxed items. These are good choises to collect them for personal use.
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Post by sinkbaek on Apr 21, 2010 12:18:41 GMT 2
Hi mazlee
I can see your point... G&W collecting is an expensive hobby... But that still doesn't change the fact that these products are not original and they're violating Nintendo's copyrights... On top of that you have the problem that these repro's are driving up prices... If you look at it the only thing of real value in this auction is the game itself - everything else is fake/repro... Point is that the reason why he's selling it in a fake box with fake instructions is that he simply wants more money for the game...therefore you end up paying more for the game and how is that helping you exactly, in regards to not having much money?
Another problem is that it's only a matter of time before the fake box and instructions ends up in an auction where it's not made clear that they're fake/repros... In other words, the more fake/repro stuff that's on the market, the higher the risk is that one of us winds up buying it under false pretences. Which is more than enough reason for us to do everything we can to limit the production and sale of these products... Unfortunately Ebay could care less about the rights and interests of buyers and third parties, so warning people on forums like this is pretty much all we can do.
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Post by mazlee on Apr 21, 2010 13:50:05 GMT 2
Hello,
ok I understand this. misinformation is bad and it's crime. Selling the repro item for the prize of a real one is disgusting.
BUT
The value of the stuff is what the buyer would pay. If there's a clear info that the stuff is a repro/fake I can decide to buy it or not for that high prize. Of course not...
But if someone sell just repro boxes for cheap prize and of course with some "reproducted item" logo on it I might to buy those.
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Post by sinkbaek on Apr 21, 2010 14:23:54 GMT 2
Hi mazlee
You're right in the sense that, all things being equal, the prize of a product is what the buyer wish to pay for it - no more, no less... But that does not change the fact that it is illegal to produce and sell products using Nintendo's trademarks or other intellectual property. Furthermore it does not change that you and I both know that these products will find their way back on to the market somewhere along the line, without being marked as fake/repro - at least there is nothing stopping the buyer from putting it back on Ebay as authentic.
Finally you need to ask yourself why you want to buy a repro in the first place? What is the value of it to you? You can't use it to trade with other collectors - they simply don't want it. You can't sell it for a profit - unless you sell it under false pretences or to someone who doesn't know anything about the G&W "market....in other words you basically have to fool someone to make a profit in a sale. You can buy loose games for far less than you'd have to pay for a loose game in a fake box...and with just a minimum of patience you can find most of the games sold in fake boxes, in original boxes for less than what the fake ones are going for - take the Goldcliff game Mike linked to.... I bought my Goldcliff with original box and foam for far less than what the fake one went for.... So what could possibly be the point of buying fake stuff? If you don't care about owning the original games...why don't you just buy a DS or a Game Boy and get the G&W Gallery collections for it? Most of the G&W games are available in those collections and you even get two versions of each game - a port of the original and an updated version...
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Post by mazlee on Apr 21, 2010 15:10:39 GMT 2
Hi!
I said, WITH some sign on it I could imagine that would be ok. My point is the same as Yours about not to sell them as an authentic one.
Of course the goal is to collect the game with original accessories, but until getting the original box, foam etc... why not place the game into a "repro" and not just into a plastic bag or something.
The value of a repro box is not so much. a few dollars maximum for me.
and after I collect the original one I simply can drop it out or just give it to another G&W fan for a beer.
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Post by sinkbaek on Apr 21, 2010 15:26:20 GMT 2
Hi mazlee Well.... Whether you mark it or not, it doesn't change the fact that it's illegal... But sure, if you marked it clearly and un-erasable, on the box that it is an un-authentic product, then I wouldn't have any further problems with it (besides it still being illegal to re-sell them ofcourse). But then let me ask you: Do you own any repro-boxes and if so, have you marked them as such? I've never seen a repro-box on Ebay marked as such, on the box - so I think we can safely say that even if you mark your boxes you're the exception to the rule... And let me ask you: would you really toss a repro-box in the bin, if you'd paid good money for it? You might....but my guess is that not that many people buying fake stuff would have the same moral standards as you ...and...personally, I wouldn't even give a beer for a repro-box... which leaves us back at the boxes then winding back up on the market and making the risk of buying a fake box, under the assumption of it being authentic, higher.... The point is that accepting repro-boxes, as a part of collecting G&W's, is a slippery slope... and sooner or later it leads to dishonesty...
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