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Post by redbuggy on Sept 23, 2004 15:43:39 GMT 2
Ruth, what do you mean when you say level B and level C racing ? Since you seem to know so much about these stuff, I wanted to ask you, how long have you been collecting ? Oh, and by the way, this ISN'T my card, I don't own one, I think Cedric has posted this. Michael hi all i'm back. i've had a quick look at the leaflets, only the third one provide some answers to our queries. (a big thanks to Dev, this is great!!) before i place my translations, i just wanted to clarify a few things: 1) mike had questioned my experience in G&W collection previously, and as said, i admit i'm in no way as experienced as many others on/off the forum, but despite my "junior-ity" in collecting, i do enjoy taking part in solving the mystery 2) a lot of the postings done over the past two days re the 60th have been based on assumptions/personal opinions due to uncertainties, so my previous "answers" were not meant to be a show off in any sense 3) i have the ability to read japanese, but so do many native japanese collectors on the forum, so it's really no big deal :smile: ok issues out of the way, here goes: 1) there were 10,000 units in total !!!! YAY (but that is assuming they only made the 10,000 and no more) 2) there were 4 levels of competition and each level has been allocated 2,500 units 3) each level of 2,500 units are allocated as follows: - the first 1-100 (i believe is related to ranking) gets a trophy and a game (60th) - the 101st to 1500th gets a game - there is then an extra 1,000 units used as lucky prize (i have probs understanding the condition to the lucky prize, it had something to do with the last 2 digits of the race time matching something... will have another look) 4) the three types of A, B, C License cards i believe are awarded based on skills. A being those in the first 100 ranking, B from 101-1500 and C from 1501 to remaining entrants. 5) so despite the blue card showing 11,790 and my green card showing 8282, all it's telling us is the number of entrants being grouped into A, B or C grades. 6) and the blue card winner was in level 3 competiton (out of 4) and won the 60th because he was within top 1500 ranking and he/she is one of the 2,500 prize winner in level 3. 7) whereas my green card winner entered level 4 competition and with a ranking of over 6,000, he/she had won the 60th as a lucky prize - 1000/6782 in chance (and meeting the conditions of lucky prize which i cannot confirm yet) i hope this clears up some questions as starters. i'll try and spend some more time analysing the remaining conditions (which was not very clear when printed out...) cheers ruth :juggler:
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Post by andycole on Sept 23, 2004 15:53:32 GMT 2
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Post by matsor27 on Sept 23, 2004 16:11:34 GMT 2
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
nice! what a bit of research can do :eek:
That increases the rarity status by 17,9%.....good to know. Maybe the value rises 17,9% too now.
Mattijs
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Post by sAner on Sept 23, 2004 16:40:57 GMT 2
I think all this are secure proof for me but when I started collecting I remember I talked to an asian collector who knew people who took part in the competition. I can't remember if it was taki or dotdrop or another guy since I didn't care about such stuff when I started collecting and never gave enough attention.. Another guy also told me that he had asked nintendo employees about this game and they gave him some links for more information but that's all I can remember. Michael I agree with you Mike! It's real for 100%. I never, ever doubted that. It would have been great when the links were still available though. sAner So, now we're back to a figure of 10000 which is what the theory was before someone changed it to 11790 Andy. Fredrik Kellen was right all along. On his website he wrote: "As far as I know only 10,000 of these were made." All other collectors spoke of 11.790. sAner
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Sept 23, 2004 18:57:36 GMT 2
1) mike had questioned my experience in G&W collection previously, and as said, i admit i'm in no way as experienced as many others on/off the forum, but despite my "junior-ity" in collecting, i do enjoy taking part in solving the mystery The way you wrote it Ruth seems to indicate that I have doubts about your experience. This isn't the case. I just asked you how long you've been collecting because you seem to know many things about the games as opposed to most new people visiting this board. Just make sure you clear this up. Now, on to our subject, thank you for the information. I still don't get what were the license cards about though.. Why does the B class license card say 3xx out of 11790 ? If only positions 101 up to 1500 were included in this class, what's the number 11790 about ? It should have read 3xx / (number of all participants). Michael
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Post by andycole on Sept 23, 2004 22:38:02 GMT 2
To answer your question Mike, and to correct Ruth's point 5, the last numbers on the license card, i.e. 11790 and 8282 are probably the number of entrants in class 3 and 4 respectively. The original winner of the blue B license entered a class 3 race with 11789 others, and got 316'th place, so won a game and got a B license (101-1500). The winner of the green license entered a class 4 race with 8281 other people, got 6260th place, therefore got a C license (1501-8282) and a game because of the 'lucky number' element. We don't know how many people entered in class A yet but it doesn't matter, because we now know that how ever many it was, only 2500 (maximum) won a game.
Andy.
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Post by sAner on Sept 23, 2004 22:49:03 GMT 2
To answer your question Mike, and to correct Ruth's point 5, the last numbers on the license card, i.e. 11790 and 8282 are probably the number of entrants in class 3 and 4 respectively. The original winner of the blue B license entered a class 3 race with 11789 others, and got 316'th place, so won a game and got a B license (101-1500). The winner of the green license entered a class 4 race with 8281 other people, got 6260th place, therefore got a C license (1501-8282) and a game because of the 'lucky number' element. We don't know how many people entered in class A yet but it doesn't matter, because we now know that how ever many it was, only 2500 (maximum) won a game. Andy. I think Andy is right. Thanks to Ruth, the problem about the amount YM-901s' issued is probably solved. sAner
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Sept 24, 2004 0:39:49 GMT 2
Yes, that's probably the way the competition was held.. :smile:
Michael
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Post by Todbrowning on Sept 24, 2004 1:56:54 GMT 2
Wow, it's hot here ! The B license card you see here, and on Torsten's site, is mine. The 11790 theory came from me ;D ;D ;D That sounded logical, 316/11790 gamers on the license card, so certainly 11790 YM-901 made. In fact, I thought "winner gamers", and that was the mistake. But I'm really glad to know now, thank to Ruth and Paul, that this game is even rarer now. ;D BTW one in its white box is available there : cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50221&item=8134150608 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by redbuggy on Sept 24, 2004 3:29:16 GMT 2
To answer your question Mike, and to correct Ruth's point 5, the last numbers on the license card, i.e. 11790 and 8282 are probably the number of entrants in class 3 and 4 respectively. The original winner of the blue B license entered a class 3 race with 11789 others, and got 316'th place, so won a game and got a B license (101-1500). The winner of the green license entered a class 4 race with 8281 other people, got 6260th place, therefore got a C license (1501-8282) and a game because of the 'lucky number' element. We don't know how many people entered in class A yet but it doesn't matter, because we now know that how ever many it was, only 2500 (maximum) won a game. Andy. thanks andy, you are dead right. only 2,500 units per level issued. sorry if some of my wordings were dubious... it was a long day/night at work yesterday... but glad some mysteries have been solved! and todbrowning, great timing to bring out a 60th ;p i presume this is a spare set? cheers red-buggy
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Post by Todbrowning on Sept 24, 2004 3:59:20 GMT 2
Yes, a spare of course
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Post by andycole on Sept 24, 2004 9:58:53 GMT 2
thanks andy, you are dead right. only 2,500 units per level issued. sorry if some of my wordings were dubious... it was a long day/night at work yesterday... but glad some mysteries have been solved! Don't be sorry Ruth, you are far too modest. :smile: We couldn't have solved the mystery without your help. Andy.
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Post by sAner on Sept 24, 2004 11:21:17 GMT 2
Wow, it's hot here ! The B license card you see here, and on Torsten's site, is mine. The 11790 theory came from me ;D ;D ;D That sounded logical, 316/11790 gamers on the license card, so certainly 11790 YM-901 made. In fact, I thought "winner gamers", and that was the mistake. But I'm really glad to know now, thank to Ruth and Paul, that this game is even rarer now. ;D BTW one in its white box is available there : cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50221&item=8134150608 ;D ;D ;D Hey Cedric! Could you send me a pic of the back of this YM-901s before you sell it (I want to use it for the tracking database)? --> (and of course of your own YM-901s) sAner Don't be sorry Ruth, you are far too modest. We couldn't have solved the mystery without your help. Andy. I agree with Andy, Ruth. Your translations have solved the mystery! sAner
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Post by Todbrowning on Sept 24, 2004 14:13:34 GMT 2
I will today Pieter
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Post by redbuggy on Sept 24, 2004 14:50:29 GMT 2
thanks guys :embarassed: :biggrin: it was a team effort :smilewinkgrin:
sAner, i haven't had time to take photo of my 60th yet, but since you are keeping a DB, did you want the photos of the other 4 that i have already sold off? i know who i've sold them to but a few of them didn't want to be named before, so i can't really disclose them. sorry. but i will let you know the country they've been sold to tho.
cheers red-buggy :juggler:
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