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Post by mookiehk on Oct 20, 2005 10:54:27 GMT 2
Are there computer experts in this forum?
I am thinking of getting a computer put together but dont know what Processor or Motherboard.
I am thinking of at least Intel anyway...and ASUS motherboard.
But there are so many different Asus board for 915 chipset...how to tell the difference of each of the boards.
Any suggestions?
Wilson
Sorry Mike I put this thread in wrong place, pls move to non g&w related.
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Oct 20, 2005 20:21:03 GMT 2
Wilson, are you sure you want to go with an Intel processor right now ? I think an AMD processor is a safer bet, they're faster and they can be overclocked more easily (if you ever need to).
Moreover, you haven't told us the reason you're buying one. This plays a big role in what components your computer should have..
Michael
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Post by Br3nd4N on Oct 21, 2005 0:36:30 GMT 2
U rang ;D
"currently" the AMD are running cooler, meaning fan noise etc is less with an AMD (important to me), this did not used to be the case.
However the intel are far better in multi threaded application instances, i.e if you like doing a lot of things at once particually with multimedia then I'd spend the extra and go intel P4.
I personally will be buying a P4 next time around, after my noisy overheating 2500+. In my experience I have had very few issues with Intel, but quite a few with AMD. All be it in the older chips....
If your looking at the socket 775 board (recommended) then you may want to consider the 945 or 955/65 chipset, or at least somthnig above the 915, as it is now getting on a bit.
-B
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Post by mookiehk on Oct 21, 2005 9:40:33 GMT 2
Slash, I should have asked you more when we were msning today. Thanks for your advice. Since I am probably doing more multi tasking I will be probably be considering the P4 630 +. As for the socket I will be using the 775 (not that i am totally sure what that means). However, for the chipset I am still kinda of confused which to use... 1) 915 isnt good? getting on? pls clarify - they seems to be fairly commonly used and according to intel is it more for mainstream PCs. 2) 945 < this is more high end right? how does this compare with the 915? 3) 955 < this is even more high end I dont think that the 955 is necessary for my use since that is slightly going over board for me. What is the difference between the 915 and 945 in lamens terms please. Is there any future benefits to buying a 945 now as compared to using the 915? Please bear in mind that the one i have right now is PIII 666Mhz. I dont expect to be upgrading for at least 2-3 years down the line. As for motherboards, I am considering using Asus (same as the one using now) but which board? I guess that depends on the above answer regarding the chipset. 915 chipset : P5GL-MX 945 chipset: P5LD2-V , P5LD2-VM, P5LD2, P5LD2 Deluxe (just to name a few) Other proposed configs are: P4 630 3.0G Asus [model not decided yet] 160GB Hard Drive 2 x DVD combo 512 MB RAM Graphics card (not the on board one) Hoepfully the above will only be under HK$5000 (US$650) [glow=red,2,300]Mike, I use my computer for lots of things: - Graphics editing
- Ordinary business : word, excel, powerpoint etc..
- Gaming
- Copying disks
[/glow] Comments on above appreciated. Wilson Any suggestions
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Post by andycole on Oct 21, 2005 10:39:11 GMT 2
I consider myself fo be a 'computer expert' or thereabouts but I don't really care for such things as chipsets or overclocking. I don't see the need nowadays, things are plenty fast enough. As far as I'm concerned, any motherboard and current top-end processor will do the jobs you want excellently, and I think you're worrying a little too much. Just buy a computer magazine that reviews components regularly and see what they recommend. You can't go far wrong. Andy.
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Post by mookiehk on Oct 21, 2005 12:26:10 GMT 2
Andy,
As much as what you said was probably correct you did not manage to provide me with any suggestions or advice.
Anyway...Slash has been of great help and has suggested the following config:
[glow=red,2,300]Motherboard[/glow]: Asus (which i wanted) P5DW2 - supports dual processing
[glow=red,2,300]CPU[/glow]: Cheaper Celeron 2.8Ghz and wait to upgrade to cheaper Dual Processor in 12+ months
The other are pretty much standard....
Let's see how much over my budget this will be.....
Thanks Slash again for the much needed advice.
[glow=red,2,300]Update:[/glow]
Well based on suggestions by Slash, I have purchased my new and hopefully much faster than my PIII computer with the folowing specs:
Motherboard - ASUS P5LD2 (945 Chipset) CPU - Intel Celeron 2.66 Ghz D331 RAM - 1 GB (2 x 512MB) Corsair Hard drive - 160GB (Divided into 60 GB and 100GB) Liteon DVD - ROM Liteon DVD +/- RW Internal Card reader Geforce FX6200 2706 Case with 4 fans 2themax power supply
Total Price: HK$4600 (+$92 charge for credit card payment)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Wilson
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Oct 22, 2005 22:41:10 GMT 2
Ok, motherboard and cpu seems good but consider getting a better cooler than the stock one. The reason is that standard coolers tend to make a lot of noise and they aren't very good at cooling the processor anyway. Instead of a single hard disk drive, I would strongly recommend getting two hard disks and install them in a raid setup. The speed increase is amazing and you'll see a great difference when using disk-intensive applications and games which load levels from the disk all the time.
A DVD-ROM isn't needed any more unless you wish to do on-the-fly burning (which isn't suggested anyway) since all new burners are as fast as their dvdrom counterparts. For games, I would suggest a geforce 6600GT (notice the "GT", I'm not talking about the plain 6600) at least. The 6200 won't be capable of running the new games which will appear the next few months sufficiently.
Michael
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Post by mookiehk on Oct 23, 2005 6:31:14 GMT 2
Mike, Thanks for your input but unfortunately I have bought the computer already ...and thus probably cannot change now.
I need the DVD Rom to copy on the fly as you said. It is actually much faster. the cost isnt that expensive for a DVD Rom so...rather copy of the fly when making copies of like 10+ dvds (about 7 min per dvd)
P.S. what is the benefit of the video card you mentioned compared to hte one I have?
Wilson
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Oct 24, 2005 18:21:09 GMT 2
The 6600GT has a more powerful chip (actually it's the same one but it's not crippled like it is in the 6200) and faster memory. As such, it has the potential of running new games at higher resolutions, with better graphics detail and higher frames per sec. The 6200 should be adequate for now but you'll notice the difference in a few months when the new games are out. Oh well, I suppose you can upgrade the graphics card later..
Michael
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Post by Br3nd4N on Oct 24, 2005 23:58:59 GMT 2
Sticking to a budget I recommended the above setup with the better motherboard supporting the dual core cpus but buying a celeron. This kept the purchase within the budget but will allow for a dual core cpu upgrading in say 12 months, then it will really take off.
-B
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Post by mookiehk on Oct 25, 2005 3:09:14 GMT 2
Slash / Mike, THanks to the both of you for your advice. I got my new computer up and running and it is definately faster than my PIII 666 Mhz...... ;D Here's my new baby:
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Post by Br3nd4N on Oct 25, 2005 4:09:57 GMT 2
Nice Case :-)
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Post by mookiehk on Oct 25, 2005 5:12:17 GMT 2
Slash,
I was hoping to get a total transparent one but the seller suggested otherwise since he said it looks terrible when there is so much dust and other things in it...
So had to settle for the quarter transparent casing... ;D
Wilson
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Post by theblackwizard on Oct 25, 2005 11:13:04 GMT 2
Hello Wilson . What model of Liteys (Lite-On) DVD burner & ROM did you get? Cheers, Damian .
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Post by mookiehk on Oct 25, 2005 15:06:57 GMT 2
Model? hmmm...
Lite-on SOHD - 167T
and Lite-on DVD RW SOHW - 1653S
Does that make sense to you?
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