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Post by pulse8 on Aug 26, 2006 14:02:58 GMT 2
Hi all, I don't think we have one of these threads as such. Well maybe we do, but I couldn't find one specific enough for this post, so I decided to create another thread, dedicated to G&W variations. Such as this one: GoldStar Jumper (Korean Parachute variation) This is the only one of these known to exist thus far, and I can't even find reference to it anywhere on the internet. As you can see the PCB has "GOLD STAR" stamped on it, but it uses a "PR-21" Nintendo chip. GOLD STAR is also stamped on the other side of the PCB. The colour filter has PR-21 on the back of it also, so there's no doubt that the filters came directly from Nintendo. The gameplay is exactly the same as G&W Parachute, but the battery cover is not a standard G&W cover. The serial number as you can see shows 7 digits instead of G&W's standard 8 digits, and is more of a paper-type than foil-type. The model number on the back is GWG-310, and there is no year mentioned; we can only assume it was a 1981/82ish release. If anyone has any additional information I'd love to hear about it. Wonder what the box looks like...? pulse8
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Post by norm412 on Aug 27, 2006 2:26:18 GMT 2
I think i got it from an eBay auction a few years ago in a lot of about 10 non nintendo handhelds. I have no idea who it came from or how much it was.
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Aug 27, 2006 13:26:56 GMT 2
My opinion is that Nintendo had nothing to do with its creation. I'm not sure about the chip and the filters but since this is a direct copy of the original, there should have been a copyright on the game. Not to mention the serial, the fact that this game was made in Korea, etc. It's a nice copy though.
Michael
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Post by Aris on Oct 12, 2006 21:06:11 GMT 2
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Post by Marcus on Jul 18, 2007 0:47:05 GMT 2
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Jul 18, 2007 12:02:28 GMT 2
So, it seems that Jumper is a genuine Nintendo product licenced for distribution in Korea, right ?
Michael
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Post by Marcus on Jul 18, 2007 14:56:25 GMT 2
All signs point to this being a genuine Nintendo product, yes. The ban was for cultural products so they must have been able to import the vital parts from Nintendo and then manufacture the rest (board, casing, etc) and assemble in Korea, as was the case with later Nintendo products.
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Post by pulse8 on Jul 19, 2007 14:16:14 GMT 2
...and I don't think there's another known one in circulation apart from mine. That's nice It would be great to see other Korean versions out there though. Nice work Marcus! pulse8
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Post by Stig on Feb 3, 2008 1:34:29 GMT 2
Hello all. I have got my hands on something that must be called a supercolor variation of Helmet: I really would like your expert comments on this game. This is what I can see: - It is made up of backgrounds from Greenhouse, Snoopy Tennis and Crab Grab(maybe) - The serial starts with an S The question is if this is a good fake or if it is a real variation. I haven't got the Crab Grab game yet, so I can't compare if the colored parts of the screen have the same width.
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Post by willsh on Feb 3, 2008 11:25:47 GMT 2
Hi blueice, welcome to the forum. Where did you get this game from? At first glance it does appear that someone has taken parts from other games to get this one to work.
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Post by Stig on Feb 3, 2008 13:02:10 GMT 2
Thank you willsh Link will die soon, but here we go: page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g48386612My Japanese is a bit rusty, so I got somebody to bid on my behalf. I agree that this could be built up of spare parts, but in that case this is profesionally done. I'm thinking of writing Nintendo a letter to establish it's authenticity
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Post by mpanayiotakis on Feb 3, 2008 18:37:27 GMT 2
Hello and welcome to the forum! This can't be an authentic item because as you've noticed it uses background parts from snoopy tennis and greenhouse. The serial seems to have been removed from a supercolor game and placed on the back of this game as well. Moreover, the multi-colour layers on the background were added to supercolor games by Nintendo after 1984 while all helmet games were released 3 years earlier!
Btw, I doubt if anyone working with Nintendo nowadays has knowledge about the game&watch games. I tried emailing them a few years back when I was in the process of writing the game&watch faq, asking some questions and got a generic reply that they have no information about what I was asking..
Michael
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Post by Stig on Feb 3, 2008 20:10:24 GMT 2
Thank you for the welcome, Michael.
Well, then I have to give credit (sort of) to the falsifier:
- The game actually works pretty good with this background. - The colored areas of the screen align perfectly with every 2. step of the Helmet-man (In the 2 middle areas). - The serial starts with S. (And is by the way outside of the registered ranges in the FAQ for the supercolor games)
I will probably open the game to check inside and of course compare it to Crab Grab when I got one.
Can't win them all. ;D
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Post by andycole on Feb 4, 2008 18:29:32 GMT 2
Didn't we discuss this very game a few months back? I'm sure I remember it. It was definitely a supercolor background mixed with something else. This has got to be the same one.
Anyway, Blueice, you can be 100% certain that somebody made this out of spare parts.
Andy
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Post by Stig on Feb 4, 2008 20:20:58 GMT 2
Yes, it's definitely a fake. I opened the game today and it was obvious: The loudspeaker wire was loose from the sticky stuff that should have held it in place. The greenhouse and snoopy tennis screen was glued together in the ends (and to the LCD itself). The Crab Grab supercolor screen was loose from the others and placed in front. So now I actually own a genuine fake. Not bad. Luckily I didn't buy brakepads from this guy. Maybe these posts should be put under a new thread, then; "Fake games" or something.
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